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I presented a briefing last week for the Employee’s Retirement Club at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) last week at the invitation of the group’s chairperson, Esther Wang. We discussed a number of topics including FEGLI, Long Term Care, and Medicare signup. There was some confusion about the ability to defer Part B premiums if your spouse continues to work and you both are covered under a FEHB plan. Fortunately, one of the participants was able to provide clarification based on her research.

 

 

When I turned 65 my wife was already retired therefore I immediately signed up for Medicare parts A and B. I didn’t have the option to defer Part B because my business is a single owner LLC and does not offer health insurance. My wife and I are covered under my FEHB enrollment.

If you are still working and have health coverage from your employer your spouse can defer signing up for Part B and sign up later without penalty per the Medicare Booklet, page 19.

According to Medicare, you will not pay a penalty “as long as you’re eligible for and enroll during a Special Enrollment Period. If you wait to enroll in Part B because you or your spouse are working and have group health coverage through an employer or union based on this current employment, you can enroll during a Special Enrollment Period. You can sign up for Part B during one of these times:

  • Any time you’re still covered by an employer or union group health plan, through your or your spouse’s current or active employment
  • During the 8-month period that begins the month after the employer or union group health plan coverage ends, or when the employment ends (whichever is first)”




The Part B Medicare premium for those signing up for the first time in 2018 will be $134 a month.  However, some people who get Social Security will pay less than this amount. Use OPM form 2809 to document that you and your spouse are covered by an FEHB plan if you do decide to defer enrollment and discuss this with your agency’s retirement counselor or HR department.

One of the primary reasons people decide to defer signing up for Medicare Part B is due to the income adjusted amount individuals must pay if their total income is over certain limits. According to Medicare, if your modified adjusted gross income as reported on your IRS tax return from 2 years ago is above a certain amount, you’ll pay the standard premium amount and an Income Monthly Adjusted Amount, also known as the IRMAA. IRMAA is an extra charge added to your premium.”

Note: The 2019 IRMAA costs have not been published yet, view the 2018 premiums online. We will publish the 2019 rates as soon as they are released.

For example, if in 2018 you sign up for Medicare Part B and your Joint income was above $170,000 up to $214,000 as reported on your 2016 tax return your Medicare Part B premium would be $187.50 per person.  Your modified adjusted income includes most of your income without any exemptions. The top rate for incomes above $320,000 is $428.60 for joint fillers.

Those subjected to these higher rates may find it advantageous to defer signing up until their working spouse retires.

Here is a list of articles that I wrote about sighing up for Medicare that you may find helpful. It includes an in-depth discussion on this subject:

There are distinct advantages to signing up for Part B since most FEHB providers pay all of the coinsurance, deductibles and copayments when Medicare is your primary provider. Take your time deciding on what direction you will take, there is much to consider and the impact on your finances can be significant if you make the wrong decision for your circumstances.

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6 Responses to “How to Defer Medicare Part B Enrollment”

  1. linda Says:

    Dennis:
    I’m not sure about what you said about OPM form 2809

    I have FEHB with self+one for my husband. When he claims his Social Security income at his FRA, he has to submit OPM form 2809 to SSoffice to decline Plan B? (I’ll still work at Fed)

    thanks

  2. Mike Pope Says:

    A caveat to this is if you have Tricare you MUST participate in Part B to continue Tricare coverages. There is no deferment, at least according to Tricare.

  3. Dennis Damp Says:

    Yes, that is a requirement for Tricare.

  4. Dennis Damp Says:

    Actually, as long as you are working and he is covered under you plan, all he needs to do is apply for part B medicare under a Special Enrollment Period (SEP) when you retire. Since Part A is free, most sign up at the first opportunity. If the person retiring is covered under a still working spouse’s FEHB or private sector plan the retiring person can defer Part B enrollment without penalty until the still working spouse retirees and stops working. The OPM 2809 form is for annuitants, those who are retired or soon to retire. It allows the person retiring to make changes to their FEHB coverage if desired for many other reasons, all outlined on the form including event code 2L that allows changes to your FEHB plan when you become eligible for Medicare. Many change to a lower cost FEHB plan when both husband and wife are 65 and sign up for Medicare A and B. Plus this form allows you to change, suspend or cancel coverage for a number of reasons.

    This form can also be used when both spouses work for the government and the older spouse is retiring and he/she carried FEHB self plus one or family coverage. The younger spouse would apply for FEHB self plus one coverage preferably during the last open season, and the retiring party could then cancel or suspend their coverage using this form. This would allow the retiring spouse to defer part B premiums without penalty when they sign up later when the younger spouse retires. It is complicated and talk with a HR retirement specialist to get the timing right. There was also a question about having 5 years continuous FEHB coverage and this change has to be coordinated properly to insure FEHB coverage for both parties in retirement.

    Generally, when you defer signing up for Medicare Part B because you are covered by your spouse’ health insurance you will have to sign up for part B under what Medicare calls a Special Enrollment Period (SEP) when your spouse stops working. The Medicare part B application will ask you specific questions about your previous health care coverage to determine if a penalty is warranted.

    You can call Medicare for additional guidance.

  5. linda Says:

    Thanks, Dennis for detailed explanation.

    I also have 2 other questions in mind and couldn’t find answer:

    1. When I have FEHB self+one while working and my husband has Medicare A when he claim Social security, there won’t be any FEHB premium change except that his Medicare A will pick up tab as secondary insurance carrier, correct?

    2. Currently I contribute to HSA family package. Can I keep contributing to Single HSA (my own) when my husband start Medicare A?

    Thanks

  6. Dennis Damp Says:

    When your husband signs up for Medicare part A your FEHB plan becomes the secondary provider, Medicare the primary provider for Part A services for your husband. You have to notify your FEHB provider that your husband has signed up for Medicare part A. Your husband’s primary coverage for doctor’s visits will remain with your FEHB provider until such time that he signs up for Part B. It’s important to notify your FEHB provider when your husband signs up for Part A and later for Part B because your FEHB program will then pick up deductibles, copayments and coinsurance payments for him. I believe you can still maintain your HSA and since your husband isn’t signing up for Part B call your FEHB provider for clarification, they will be able to help.